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DEEP MONE
(From page 85) Sorta like how the contours of the
Stratocaster are designed.
Evolution.
I just had a D.D. King guitar made and a lot of the
qualities I put in it were...it had to have a lot of
the same qualities as a surfboard, not a skateboard,
but a surfboard. Especially like the cartoon face
decal. I was actually thinking of doing it yellow but
I didn't get too carried away and had to do it red.
It also has to have a look, like a classic, like one
of those Gibsons of the sixties. This is gonna be
a guitar I'm gonna use if I do the rap live.
Okay, that's another good point. Do you intend
to move further along with the rap?
Yes, I've been offered a tour this spring, I'm ac-
tually thinking about going out there and having
an album come out in the spring and doing a little
rap tour. I would like to get on a bill with other rap-
pers, doing a big rap tour. I'll just have to see if
I'm accepted first, if the rap audience wants me.
I'd like to hear some of your other stuff. What
I did hear doesn't sound like your stereotypical
rap. It does have the feeling of rap, but there's
something else catchy in there. Like the sound
you make with the guitar instead of the turn-
table. You notice those differences, the subtlety.
I think that will make a lot of difference.
It's sorta amazing that it's the first time a Ramone
did something with a funky beat. One of the other
reasons I chose to go into rap was that for some
reason I wanted to have a song that was like a punk
song that could be played in discos, 'cause there
are discos that the punks go to and they'd be dan-
cing to the Beastie Boys. And the Beastie Boys
were punk, but they went funky. So to dance in
some of these clubs the kids want the music to
be funky. So I wanted to do something with a funky
beat, to recapture the spontaneity of the demo.
We had to do it over about five times so we could
get natural again.
The first time we went into the studio to actually
record "Funky Man," I was horrified by what I came
out with. I just couldn't get the rap in the same
way. The tone in my voice or somehow the original
way we did "Funky Man," it was all these bizarre
ideas that I don't think anyone ever used in music
before. It just went 1, 2, 3, 4 and it all came out.
But when we had to go into the studio something
got in the way. There was too much pressure or
something. We had to do it about five times before
we got it right, before we said, "Okay, this is the
natural one; it has the honest feel." I'd like to let
everyone know, even though I'm gonna be com-
ing out with a rap album and doing a rap tour and
everything, I'm not leaving the Ramones.
How does the rest of the band feel about your
rap?
They don't mind one bit, because we're definitely
gonna put out another Ramones album. I think
we should put out at least one more. I like what
we've done on our newest album with the maturi-
ty of our approach to lyrics and what we're saying
and everything.
The new album is called?
Halfway to Sanity. It really means that we got halfway
sane (laughter) but, uh, I think if we go out with
our last album it would be nice to do one where
all the songs are like real fun songs. Songs like
"Sheena" or "Rockaway Beach." There is a song
like that on the new album, "Go Little Camaro Go"
Y'know, just fun. I don't know what inspires it. It's
some kind of feeling of rock and roll that's hard
to get. Y'know, you can't be too sophisticated to
do it. On, "Go Little Camaro Go," the chords in
the song stay the same on the chorus and the
verses. It's kinda our surf song, y'know.
Some of that stuff has the surf feel, like "Surf-
ing Bird." Is that the kind of thing you listened to?
It's sorta similiar to that type of theory. There is
also another song on there called, "I Want To Live,"
where it may sound as if the playing was kinda
sophisticated, but that's just John's overdubbing
guitar. Basically, the theory behind the song is real
punk rock. In that song, again the chords are the
same in the music and the chorus. They are all
the same, y'know.
How many songs do you think the Ramones have
written?
Maybe a hundred-and-twenty-five or something like
that.
How many albums?
About ten, I guess. I really don't know. I'm pretty
sure this is our tenth one. Then we have our live
album and the soundtrack for Rock and Roll High
School.
About the movie-in a nutshell, how did you
approach doing a movie?
Well, the director originally got this script; I think
it was called "Disco High," or something like that.
He was just one of these guys who could see into
the future and he saw something in the Ramones.
He got a notion to make this "Disco High"" movie
and do it with the Ramones and call it Rock and
Roll High School. I think he actually had to trick
the movie company and tell them we were a disco
group. I like the movie. We're still good friends with
the director. He's producing Moonlighting now. He
comes to our gigs in L.A., and we're friendly with
the guy. I don't know if the movie is played on regular
TV in San Francisco, but in New York everybody's
had a chance to see it by now.
Was it fun making the movie?
No. It's not fun making movies. Making movies
is probably one of the hardest things to do in show
business. Im always amazed at the strength that
actors must have to make a movie. To make a movie
is really a difficult thing to do. It's probably harder
than being in a rock band. By the way, I did a video
for "Funky Man."
You did?
I put a lot of work into it. I got involved with writing
the script, and it's a very fun video. It'll be on MTV
pretty soon.
I know it's gonna get played at least seven times
on MTV. I'm sure anyone who sees the video will
want to pick up the song or want to see the video
again. It's real cute. It's got a funny story to it.
Is there anything behind the album cover
artwork?
Well, that was my fantasy for all the adventures
I was giving D.D. King. D.D. King was a rock star,
but his hobby was rap and the cover is a fantasy
of what D.D. King's hobby is, street rapping in the
park. Just stand there with a boom box and a
microphone and a drum machine and do raps in
the park. Much like I used to see folk singers play
folk music in the park when I was a kid. I had this
fantasy that I wanted to do rap to people in the park.
What park is this?
Washington Square Park. I don't know if they still
do it anymore in Central Park but I know I have
a craving to do it in Washington Square Park. Any
park or any street corner where you can set up.
There are good places to set up on 42nd and Broad-
way by the Time and Life building.
People do that there.
I've seen all kinds of acts. I've never seen any rap-
pers, but I've seen jazz acts and funks acts and
classical guitar players who have little amplifiers
they plug into battery amps. I want to start doing
raps in the park, on the street.
Bring it directly to the public?
Well, 1 don't really have to do it to earn a living
or anything. The most important thing is that it
should be fun.
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