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Last year we had our stacks... We're sup-
posed to be playing in the Aldacomet or
whatever.
K: It kind of helps the concept of the album
100.
What is the concept of the album?
K: Manipulation. Various forms of manip-
ulation, which can go into entirely a different
subjects which we could talk about for hours.
Why are you saying "Master of Pup-
pets"? Is it something that you've felt
has been done to you or that you see
being done to your friends?
J: Nah, I see it done to different people.
Some of the stuff...well "Master of Puppets"
deals pretty much with drugs. How things
get switched around, instead of you con-
trolling what you're taking and doing it's
drugs controlling you. Like, I went to a party
here in S.F., there were all these freaks
shooting up and geezin' and this other girl
was real sick.
Does that scare you?
J: Yeah, hella.
Are you guys getting to the point where
you're becoming an anti-drug band?
J: No, because we don't want to tell anyone
what to do. If people are into it that's cool,
they wouldn't mind about the subject we're
talking about. I was at that party and it
freaked me out and I'm hella paranoid.
K: We run into a lot of freaks on the road
messed-up on drugs, all the time.
J: That's what happened at the last show...
K: Yeah, someone O.D.ed at the L.A. show.
J: Three people died.
A moment in sonic expression, Kirk Hammett.
But that's not your responsibility
though...
J: 'Oh, of course it is,' all the mom's say.
K: The P.M.R.C., they probably don't know
about it yet, but if they did know about it
they'd raise a fucking all-holy ruckus.
J: "Leper Messiah" deals with how people
bow to TV preachers and send all their
money away...It's just that we're aware of
the fact that shit like this happens..
What's the feeling for you guys when
you're playing live?
K: It's a lot of fun. Just go out there and
bash it out, you know, have a lot of fun
while we're doing it and if other people dig
it, cool.
Even when you're playing the same
song every night?
K: Yeah, we still get into it.
J: It's a different feeling every night, different
people there. It's cool to freak people out
too. A lot of people will be sitting there and
don't know what the hell...and you just go
over and throw a beer on them. And then
they go, 'Oh my God, you're gettin out of
control. Some people who come to gigs
are so lame. They sit there, they pay all
this money to get front row, "Yeah!," and
they sit down. Like man, what the fuck.
You get nervous up there in front of a
crowd?
J: I get nervous every night. Before I go on
I feel like barfing my guts out. Not nervous
really, just a kind of excitement. Like, 'Oh
my God, I'm going to forget this, I'm going
to forget the lyrics, I'm going to forget how
to play guitar...
K: Yeah, I'd say it's adrenalin that's building
up, a lot of it's nervous energy.
Well, here you are playing for a crowd
of like 20,000...
J: I don't even think of it like that. I don't think,
'Oh God, how many people are going to
be here tonight?' I just go out there and play.
K: When you go out there and bash it out
it brings up a rush of adrenalin. Adrenalin
is flowing and along with that is a touch of
nervous energy. The adrenalin like totally
takes over when you get up on stage and
start playing and having a lot of fun. Then
you forget the nervous energy and it's just
energy. But I get nervous....
Does it bother you that they sit there?
Are they supposed to amp out?
J: Not really, I like watching that though. It's
kind of hard for kids to get a huge pit going
when there's all these chairs happening.
Kids have fun their own way. That's the way
I have fun, so maybe they do it my way.
You know, you gotta have some fun. A lot.
of time they're just sitting there having fun
their way, you don't realize that's how they
have fun. But, we're not out there going.
OK, everybody, give me your cigarette
lighters, everybody go like this."
Do you have any advice or anything that
you would tell people?
K: Be honest with yourself.
J: Honest. Get some originality happening
and be aware of certain positions you could
get stuck into as far as management and
record companies.
K: Be aware of the fact that it is a business
and you have to have a business-like
attitude, because people will fuck you up
any chance they get.
Like people using you?
J: I hate the business side of it all. I go to
all of our band meetings or whatever and
end up falling asleep.
K: I do too, I have a lot of contempt for it.
You really have to pay attention whether
you like it or not. There has to be someone
in the band who is aware of what can
happen and what is happening all the time.
It's really easy to get fucked over. So easy.
Is there anything else that James and
Kirk have to say for Metallica?
K: Don't lie to yourself. Don't try to be
someting you're not.
J: Hey, I'm eight feet tall.
K: No you're not.
J: People have to be confident in what
they're doing, if they're not then people will
step all over them. Confidence in youself.
Is it hard to sometimes realize that you
guys are being used?
J: I get pissed-off once in awhile listening
to bootleggers out there. I almost fucking
slammed one of them, then I realized, shit,
I might get arrested and then I can't play
the show. Yeah, you gotta think ahead...at
least one hour.
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