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survive, okay, I'm not saying OK
you'll survive and you'll have your
little blah, blah and everybody else
will go." I'm saying everyone would
be dead Everybody. I don't think this
whole planet deserves to live. I think
it's all scum. If you want to really get
down to it. I think everybody should
live whatever kind of life they want.
but il someone gave me the means
to end it. I would do it.
Do you think that would be a better
solution than trying to work it out?
It doesn't matter, it's not going to
work out How many years has this
planet been around. huh? How many
wars have there been? Its not so
much the wars either, its like, just
assholes. People are they ve
been given a brain they ve been
given a body, okay. I mean theres a
lot of intelligent people around and
they're not using their brains. Also
not everyone is given a perfect body
to use, and heres all these people
given a perfect body and theres
somebody crippled in a wheelchair
or missing an arm born fucked-
up...and here's these other people
complaining about their Ives Shut
the fuck up. They don't want the crip-
pled people around because it makes
them think about how much they
have, and they don't want to do that
I never get bummed out. at anything.
anything at ak. Because I look at
myself and think, look at how lucky.
lock at how well-off you are you
could be like this, or this could hap-
pen, you know what I mean? As bad
as something is that happens to you.
it could always be worse. Always.
So, with that idea in mind, are all the
toys and the comics and things an
escape from humanity for you?
Maybe not so much an escape but
I have my own world. That might be
an escape from humanity, my own
world, but I like having my own world.
And I let the people 1 1ke into my
world and that's it. When you get a
Samhain record theres a view of my
world. the way I see the world and
what my solution might be. I think
it's great to have your own world. Id
like to have my own world where
assholes couldn't come into it
What would happen if something
happened and all this was de
stroyed? Would you rebuild it again?
Sure It would only be destroyed
physically Thats life you know what
I mean? Nothing's forever. You can't
count on anything, because every
things up for grabs in this world, in
any world really. I can't see any
other way Everything could be de
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stroyed at a minute's notice. seconds
notice. Nothing is here forever, it's
just here and enjoy it while its here
because it can be gone tomorrow.
That's the way your ife is, and thats
the way your health is. So thats why
I think people dwell on the negative
too much. Of course theres nega-
tive, but you can work off negative.
I work off negative better than posi-
tive Positive is easy to work off
anyone can work off positive. But
people get so bummed out and
scared of what negative is that they
don't deal with a. And you have to
deal with everything.
So do you think that you're a positive
person
Sure.
Do you spread that positiveness to-
wards other people? You don't go
out on the corner and go
here's my positive world?
listen
I dont care about other people. 1
dont spread my philosopy to any
body. If they want to know about it.
if they're friends and they're asking
me this or that I'll say This is my
opinion. You do what you want but
this is how I approach this problem
or certain subject, or situation or
whatever. And I have success with
it. Basically it's just common sense
it's no big deal Common sense
which most people do not have be
cause they dont use their intelli
gence. they don't try and cultivate it.
It's much easier being stupid in this
world than it is to be smart. Because
if youre smart. there's a certain
amount of responsibility that you
have that goes along with being that
smart. You're intelligent and you cant
act like an asshole or a dumb person
You can't go Oh, I didn't know. Im
sorry Gee, you know I didn't mean
to do that. That's the dumb person's
typical excuse
Do you think that drugs are the same
kind of escape from responsibility
and is that why drug use is on the
rise?
I don't know if drugs are an escape
from responsibility I think drugs are
used because a lot of people ar
bored with ife, and theres not much
How do people get bored with Me?
Maybe a kid can't get a grifriend or
a kid can't get this or that or he sees
all his friends doing this and that and
he's left around on his own nothing
to do. he might start reading books
or hell start doing drugs to pass the
time, to get a thil or something A
lot of people get involved with drugs
through peer pressure A lot of
people get involved with drugs by
just sheer boredom. When I was liv.
ing in New York a lot of my friends.
would just do drugs because there
was nothing to do that night, and
that was something to do. At first it
didn't cost that much it cost about
as much as going out to see a band.
But there were no bands playing so
they a go and shoot heroin or do
ludes and just zonk out somewhere
And eventually it wasn't that cheap
anymore, and also, eventually they
had to do it. And that's how it starts.
So that's why I say out of boredom
a lot of people do drugs. The people
who get really fucked-up on them.
and reliant upon them. It happens
wherever you are, nothing to do.
What are you gonna do lets get
based lets get fucked-up anight
And that's what they do Go to any
big heavy metal show. I'm talking
about say Ozzy I'm not talking about
the new spood metal any of those
TV Devilman
shows and most of those people
are so fucked-up they don't even
know what they re souing Go to a
Journey show those people are so
loaded
I like a party
Exactly I dont like parties it its
people together at your place who
you live and enjoy their company it's
not really a party, that's a get-together
with friends I don't like to just mingle
with people. That's why the Misfits
were never ones to like be seen at
the right place at the night tane, with
the right people Recordcompany par
ties wed always be invited to and
bulisht like that I wasnt into that
like the scene makers Let other
people do that. We still get invites
for a lot of stupid shit like that, I don't
care I'm not your Mr. Scenester. I
that means we don't got as much
press, thats fine, cause I don't kiss
somebodys ass or something it
doesn't matter to me The press
never matterod to me. It noves will
You want to make Samhain and
Mistits skateboards, right?
Yeah, there's going to be two different
Samhain boards and two different
Mslit boards Basically the reason
were doing it is because we have a
big calling to do it. A lot of kids have
been asking about them It's the
same thing with the videos, a lot of
people want Mislits and Samhain
skateboards and videos. So we're
going to try and accomodate them.
It's very expensive to do. especially
the skateboard. The video thing we
can get happening pretty quick, but
the skateboard thing seems more
expensive than the video.
Are you going to use existing designs
for the boards or will you make new.
ones?
Well, the four designs will be the
Crimson Ghost skull and a logo for
one of the boards for the Misfits.
Then we have the Evil Eye design.
Then we have the Human Scarecrow
(cover of November Coming Fire
then we have the other Samhain
thing which is the Skull Girl holding
up the cards (back cover of initiumi
Hopefully we have them out by
summer. I think thats a reasonable
projection. Id like to have them
sooner
This is a question I'm asked a lot
but I'll ask you, what's the fascination
with skulls?
I just think they look cool.
People say to me "But it's a death
symbol, do you believe in death?".
I believe in death, death is part of
life. Without death there is no life.
Are you afraid of death?
No actually I'm kind of looking for
ward to it. I'll wait till the time comes.
but I don't see anything wrong with
suicide, though. I don't think suicide
should be illegal. I think it someone
wants to kill themselves, if someone
really hates life that much then they
should be able to die.
What about the people who are irra-
tional at the time, and they really
don't know. because they just
broke up with their girlfriend?
That's their problem. That's another
thing I don't believe in. I don't think
that everyone should be a protector
of someone else. Everyone has a
responsibility to themselves. and
that's about it. You can be nice to
other people and stuff, but you can't
control someone else's ife. That's a
form of fascism.
That's being God
That's right, youre not God
Is God fascism?
I don't know, I don't know what nudes
we have about God. God is not a
man, okay, not a man or woman,
He's a power and entity unto Himself
and he also has laws unto Himsel
You are talking about man over man
and not imposing your will upon
someone else Thats the whole deal.
you cannot tell somebody, dont do
that without being their little die-
tator
But isn't that what region is doing?
Not religion, the people in control of
organized religion are doing that. You
read the Bible and stuff like that and
nowhere in there does it say You
have to pay me such and such
amount of money so that we can
continue to do this, and wait a mi
nute let's have a Pope, and let's
have this and that. That's nowhere
in the Bible.
So is organized religion a fonn of
fascism?
Organized religion is probably more
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dedicated
Sotanism than
Satanisto are. Because they're per
petuating the myth that Satan is this
and that, they're dividing more:
people than they're bringing to
gether it that's not evil I dont know
what is. So basically night now, if you
believe in Satan, he doesn't nially
have to do a goddamn thing. He can
sit back and laugh and maybe exert
his energies clouwbors and let the
Catholic Church just do all their evil
bullshit on their own.
So do you think that that makes up
a lot of the unhappiness in the world?
I think it makes up almost all of it
me there, I dont have to do anything
about 1 don't have to be about any
of this stull, it's all there. The whole
thing is that there are all these people
starving and in the Vatican they ve
got all these paintings and artifacts
in there worth millions and millions,
If they only cared about all the star
ing people in the world they could
sell that shil and take care of poor
people. And they don't.
Not just organized religion, but I think
that people in general are being
raiser to be more selfish within them
solved
But the Catholic Church is supposed
to be above at that That's what
don't ika, they're too hypocritical.
They say one thing and do another
And a lot of people buy their bulishit,
They believe everything they say and
they live the way the Catholic Church
tos them to sve. Like no birth con-
trol..
Now what about the people who are
not Catholic?
Well they're stuck, aren't they? Like
I said, organized religion, ancies they
got to the point where they say,
Olray we've got to have this, then
it's no longer serving the purpose it's
supposed to serve. The comforter of
people, it gives them faith, it gives.
them mason to go on when everything
sucks, stuff like that. I don't think thoy
have that I think they're just billing
people out of all their money. And I
don't think that's very conducive to
the end result that they are supposed
to be achieving.
So now that you're petting your cat
do you like animals more than you
Ae people?
Sure You can learn a lot from ani
mal. Especially dogs, as far as the
violence thing is concemed Live
being gentle one second but it some-
one tries to screw you asepping into
your animal instinct immediately
That's what I've come to learn and
understand about my personesty
and my being. So in some instances,
when I get in fights. I'm in a better
position than a lot of other people
Do you try and avoid a flight, or when
the violence occurs, does it take
over?
I try and stay away from fights now
because my fights will be a fight to
the death
Why is that?
So is that why now you work out?
No, that's just something I do for
myself. I want to be at my top phys
ical condition. I want to take my body
and my mind to the highest possible
level that i can
So with all these beliefs that you
have, do you feel that you are what
you called your first band, a mistr
Maybe then I did, but I don't feel like
& mistit now. Obviously I don't relate
to a lot of what's going on in the
world. I don't relate to it and don't
want to either. Anyone who would
want to, in my opinion is really fucked
up. It seems, in this country at least.
the with each president, they get
worse and worse. You know how
everyone was saying, "Oh, how
could anyorin have been worse than
Noxon, then we got Carter How could
anyone be worse than Carter, then
we got Reagan, How could anyone
bo worse than Reagan?" We're going
to get some other stupid moron
who's going to to be worse than
Reagan and everyone's going to say
"Oh God, why can't we have Reagan
back? Because what we have right
now is just a joke. What happens
now is that everyone in America, the
9 to Sers, the consensus of Americe,
is just so spathetic that they just
don't even care anymore. The voter
turn-out is less and less every year,
because everyone is starting to
realize that it dosen't matter who they
vote for because nothing is going to
get solved and nothing is going to
change and it doesnt even give tw
shits who they vote for 'cause they
know its not even going to make a
goddamn difference what goes on
in world affairs. And even country
affairs that they're supposed to have
a say in. You're voting for somebody
and that doesn't mean that they're
going to do what you what to do.
Even when you vote for someone in
your state that doesn't even guaran
tee what you want is done. Because
everybody is so vague about the e
sues, they don't say what they really
stand for and they don't say what
they're gonna realy do. Thats why I
think that they can blame violencs
on whatever they want to blame it
on, but there's so much violence be
cause people feel that they have no
say in the lives anymore.
Is that why you don't care?
I don't care about politics because
know I have no say in what they're
doing. I don't know, I think that bas
cally my freedoms and my person
someone really trespasses me
to the point where I can't take it I'd
rather do something about it and die
than not do anything about it and
just keep on. There are some in-
stances where I use the Chinese
philosophy of a willow tran bonding
in the wired will survive longer than
a tree that doesn't bord. You can do
that for only so long. You can only
bend so far before you break, and
thats what I will do. Il bond as far
as I can before I break, But once I
break
Do you have anything else you want
to say?
Because that's what a fight is to me
if it's a no contest for me it obviously
won't be, you know what I mean.
Usually I dont get in a lot of fights
because people know that I'm not. I've got so much I want to talk about
somebody to screw with, ovon we could be here for 8 years
though I'm not as big as a lot of Do you still get drunk?
people
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